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Discussion Topics How long should a Practitioner Training be? In the early days of NLP trainings were at least 21 days. Is was done properly and in depth. As time went on it became shorter and shortter till some trainings are offered now in 4 days and even online trainings. And then you get a certificate which states that you are certified?! Honestly, just post people the certificates after they have paid, no worries. I can not see any way how a person can get all the learnings and experience in shorther than 7-8 days and also with some practical hours afterwards. No Training with any credibility will not require some Practical hours. So, when I do Trainings I want to know from my heart that when I give out a certificate that I can proudly sign my name on that certificate. The person getting the certified is worthy in all ways to be called a NLP Practitoner. And I am proud to list these Practitioners on my website. I sincerley hope that slowly but surely the NLP world will work out Trainers which hand out certificates like gifts, with no standard of credibility. I appela to all NLP Trainers out there not to give out certificates just because someone has attended a course. Attendance is attendance, certification is a whole different ball game. Na I appeal to all students out there, to choose your Trainers with care. If you are serious and really want to have a high standard of Training, make sure you choose a NLP Training where certificates are not just handed out after the training. Any input from the NLP Community? Created by: Administration | Date & Time: Wednesday, 22 February 2012 @ 02:50 AM  read more  Radical Honesty Ever since I did the NLP Certified Coaching Practitioner course in February of this year, Dr. Ernest Frost and myself have developed an amazing friendship and teacher student relationship. We have exchanged many theories and concepts between ourselves. I have also been fortunate enough to shared with him many of the books and concepts that I have learned studied over the years as part of my personal quest to understand myself and the world around me. I also showed him my favourite movie called "Interstate 60: Episodes of the Road" which is about a young man who wishes for an answer to his life, and is granted that wish in an open ended manner by embarking on a journey on a highway that doesn't officially exist, yet is no less real than any other. Along the way he meets some interesting characters and sees remarkable sights, yet one of the characters is of particular interest pertaining to this article: Bob Cody, the man who hates lying. His motto being "Say what you mean. Mean what you say." Created by: Adrian Alberts | Date & Time: Tuesday, 5 July 2011 @ 12:38 PM  read more  Imago According to Imago theory, you are created in a state of connection and joy, whole and complete. It is inevitable that your childhood carers will fail to perfectly meet your needs, and you will adapt to those experiences. The Purpose Of Romantic Love. Why do you fall in love with particular people? According to Imago theory, you seek to recreate the conditions of your childhood so that you can use your adult competance to complete your developmental tasks and grow up - in other words, to finish your childhood. As Ben Hecht said, "Love is the magician that pulls a man out of his own hat." Three things make you fall in love: . You are driven to recreate the relational conditions of your childhood by bonding with someone who is sufficiently similar to your childhood carers - an Imago match. 1.You will tend to fall in love with someone who matches an unconscious profile made up of positive and negative characteristics of your childhood carers. This profile is the "imago" (Latin for image, in the sense of likeness or resemblance). 2.You tend to fall in love with someone who has the same wound1 but a different defence - the fundamental need is the same, but one will openly acknowledge it while the other will deny it. Imago therapists often find couples who are in some significant way complementary - introversion and extroversion, blame and guilt, anger and sadness, control and submission, anxiety and stoicism, or logic and intuition. 3.You tend to be attracted to partners who exhibit aspects of your lost selves, the innate aspects of your personality of which you are not conscious. If you have a partner who carries the lost parts of your self, you are effectively reclaiming your lost parts by proxy. Generally, one partner will be a minimizer, holding their energy in to deal with anxiety by themselves (predominantly using the avoider, isolator, compulsive controller, or competitor adaptations), and the other will be a maximizer, directing their energy outwards to deal with anxiety through contact with others (predominantly using the clinger, pursuer, diffuser, or compromiser adaptations). With adaptations from the latter stages of development (concern and intimacy), things are more fluid. For instance, it is not uncommon to find a couple in which the rebel is the maximiser and the conformist is the minimiser. Within such a relationship, the partners may frequently swap those roles between them - if the rebel conforms the conformist may rebel. If you are a maximizer, you need to learn to be able to do something that minimizers can do (turn your energy inward to deal with anxiety by yourself), and vice versa. For instance, a girl reacted to her parents’ arbitrary and unjust authority by protesting and rebelling (maximizer), and a boy reacted to his parents' similar authority by withdrawing into himself and containing his resentment (minimizer). When they fell in love with each other as adults, they each offered the other an example of a different adaptation, which if integrated, could offer them both choice in how to deal with anxiety and disappointment, and therefore may bring liberation from rigid adaptations. If you and your partner can do this, you can each complete a developmental stage. Typically, you and your partner will be seeking to complete the same stage (or adjacent stages), so you may be an avoider holding off a clinger, a distancer running from a pursuer, a controller dominating a diffuser, or a competitor trying to outdo a compromiser. If you and your partner drive each other nuts, you are probably made for each other! (Sounds crazy, doesn't it?) Created by: Ernest Frost | Date & Time: Friday, 24 June 2011 @ 08:27 AM  read more  Art/Music Therapy Hi, I would love to hear from any NLP practitioners/Therapists who use NLP techniques in conjunction with Art- or Music Therapy. I just did my practitioners' course and would very much like to hear what the possibilities are. My imagination is running wild but I would love to hear of any tried and trusted adaptations. Created by: Anna Davel | Date & Time: Wednesday, 25 May 2011 @ 11:23 PM  read more  NLP for coaching non-profit organisations Hi there, I'm a beginner to NLP and just completed the 8 day practitioner course, a wonderful experience with wonderful people. I'd like to hear from anyone about experiences people have had in implementing NLP techniques to help non-profit organisations work better, think better, reach their objectives with more impact. I run a small fund that works with small education organisations, so am keen to explore using NLP to increase grantee organisation's capacity. Thanks! Created by: Charles NLP | Date & Time: Monday, 23 May 2011 @ 06:46 PM  read more  Walter Freeman and Lobotomies Watching a fascinating programme on BBC knowledge about Walter Freeman; the Father of the Lobotomy; really made me think about the brain as a organsing instrument for emotions and how to change that. He performed more than 100 00 lobotomies in his lifetime, that means cutting off the neural connections between the preforontal cortex and the limbic system. The belief was that the emotionally 'ill' people (depressoins and all other forms of mental illness) was caused by an to many neural connectons between the emotional brain and the prefrontal cortex. Cutting it off was supposed to cause an improvement in the mental states of these patients. Here is a description how he did this: "Walter Freeman lifted the patient's eyelid and inserted an ice pick-like instrument called a leucotome through a tear duct. A few taps with a surgical hammer breached the bone. Freeman took a position behind the patient's head, pushed the leucotome about an inch and a half into the frontal lobe of the patient's brain, and moved the sharp tip back and forth. Then he repeated the process with the other eye socket." About a third of the patients improved, another third stayed the same and a third was worse off, often with brain damage. I found it fascinating that this man was travelling with a van all over the United States, picking holes into people skulls and that it was allowed. ? And more fascinating is that a third of the patients improved to have a healthy normal life. In EMDR (a therapy used today for trauma) the focus is also on the neural connections between the frontal lobe of the brain and the limbic system and especially about improving the neural networks between the two parts of the brain. The belief is that the emotional disturbance is caused by a lack of communication between the two parts. And is done with eye movements and sound stimulation. The Walter Freeman's method reminds me of something I remember from the Bible when I was a child. If some part of you give you a problem(my words) cut if off and throughit away from you...... Did he have some or other truth in his treatment of mental illnesses by using lobotomies? What do other readers think? Created by: Ernest Frost | Date & Time: Wednesday, 22 December 2010 @ 05:11 AM  read more  New day-New life Is it only me or is today odd, I am normally so organised and now I am shifting papers and thoughts all around me! I have learnt so much in the last week about me and people around me but don't know where to begin, thank you Ernest for taking me on this journey. I am so excited to take this forward but really don't know where to begin!! I am sure it will all fall into place as soon as I come back down to earth.... Created by: Wendy White | Date & Time: Monday, 15 November 2010 @ 09:20 AM  read more  Rapport with hyperactive people Have you ever tried to mirror or pace a difficult client? I met up with a friend last night who was stressed to the max. As I have been revising some of my skills for an upcoming course I decided to practice some of my rapport skills in order to calm him down to the sort of level I now operate in. Great, peaceful and practiced practitioner that I am! After 5 minutes I was exhausted. This was like trying to teach a rabid polar bear how to eat popcorn out of my 11 year old child's hands; atrociously acrobatic, predictably painful and fervently futile. This is not a game that all bears can play. The more I attempted to match Ron's gesticulatory performance the more I egged him on to further transcendences of temperament. Finally, and terminally, I aborted my last attempt to pace him, (which involved the judicious use of an instamatic camera, a lump of pizza dough and Rons socks whilst we liaised with a young German ladies shot-put champion in the jacuzzi). Do not even think about asking for more information. I left him even more hyped than when I arrived! I would love to hear some feedback on what other practitioners have done when the client is so hyper that they quite literally don't sit still for a second. Even better, share your experience and convince me that Ron is not the only person in the world who acts like this! Created by: Miles Harrop | Date & Time: Tuesday, 2 November 2010 @ 10:13 AM  read more  The Field - Lynn McTaggart In this groundbreaking and absolutely fascinating book this journalist undertakes a journey to explore quantum physics and how we as human beings can tap into our tremendous potential. She sets off with one question in mind. If there are so many real life examples of miraculous cures today which doesn't fit in to the existing scientific and ecpecially medical model, are there any real scientists(and not new age pseudo-scientists burning inscence and chanting away) out there who are exploring these phenomena within a scientific model. Her journey takes her to all the corners of the world, meeting scientists who have often been ostracised because of their almost impossible new findings within a scientific community who are not ready for this quantum shift. Do I hear a rumbling of the church of the 17th century in the background haunting Copernicus and Galilei with the view: Change your view or lose your life!? On her journey which is more than often frustrating because as a journalist with little scientific background she finds it difficult to really grasp the depth of the scientific theory - she interviews some of the most cutting edge scientists and translate it in a language for everyone to understand. For me this an act worthy of applause. Putting all these information together in a unique and understandable way; for the first time, up to now unexplained mysteries have a solid scientific base: called The Field. Pehenomena like distance healing, remote viewing, and a lot of othr psyhic phenomena suddenly make sense. And with this I mean scientific sense. And the science behind it is the world of quantum physics: What I found the most enlightning is that everything in this universe can now be proofed to be interconnected at a deeper level and that humans not only have a effect on each other but also have a effect on machines, electronic equipment and even rocks and plants by the mere frequencies they radiate. Always have a broken car? What are the energetic frequencies you radiate which can be measured by measuring the light photon frequencies from the DNA which is directly generated by consciousness, coming from the personal mind and on a higher level the collective mind. For those out there sharing these field of interest, please read it and let's share some views. I have prepared a two hour lecture on this fascinating work and am also available for public talks. Created by: Ernest Frost | Date & Time: Saturday, 30 October 2010 @ 05:16 PM  read more  I allow myself..... How do I allow myself to recieve ...... by Grace!! What does it means? Created by: johan muller | Date & Time: Thursday, 28 October 2010 @ 05:51 AM  read more  NLP and prison inmates Someone once said: If spirituality can't help you behind the kitchen sink, it doesn't really help. And Carolyn Myss said: If you can not meditate in a room full of noisy people you really have a lot to learn about meditation. I want to add: If therapy and coaching doesn't reach the bigger population it can become another elite therapy reserved for the higher income groups. I am just wondering about all the new healing disciplines and how much of it are still reserved for the small percentage of the population who can afford these therapies? How much of these techniques really reach that percentage of the population where it can really make a difference, like hospitals, prisons, psychiatric institutions? Created by: Ernest Frost | Date & Time: Monday, 25 October 2010 @ 02:58 PM  read more  Start a New Discussion You have to be logged in to add discussion topics to the Ernest Frost Discussion Forum. Login to the left of the page, or Register on the Ernest Frost website.

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